The most important moment of Sunday night’s Democratic debate between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders: her deft counter-punch of his caterwauling and blaming her “disastrous” trade policies for the loss of manufacturing jobs.
On the stage in Flint, Michigan, near the heart of the nation’s auto industry, Clinton didn’t miss a beat in noting Sanders’s vote against the 2009 federal bailout of car makers.
“If everybody had voted the way he did, I believe the auto industry would have collapsed, taking 4 million jobs with it,” she said.
Take that, Howard Beal.
It reminded us of that great Obama-Biden bumper sticker: “Bin Laden is dead; GM is alive.” And Hillary was on the right side of both of those biggies.
The davening mansplainer: For Hillary, it surely was a satisfying exchange, as it punctured Bernie’s two-hour display of finger-wagging, face-smirking and rude interruptions — “excuse me I’m talking,” he mansplained in one attempt to hush her – in which he seemed a cross between an Ashkenazi rabbi davening and the four-eyed dork in the front row of fifth grade about to pee his pants if Miss Barbara didn’t call on him. (see #excusemeimtalking)
While Sanders defensively disputes her characterization of his position on the legislation – he insists he was voting against the bailout of Wall Street and big banks – it’s an argument that will cut deeply in Michigan, Ohio and Illinois, direct primary states where she is expected to win comfortably.
As will Sanders’s defense of his vote to grant immunity to gun manufacturers and sellers. Not to mention his rather clumsy statement that white people don’t know what it’s like to live in a ghetto.
Nothing new under the sun: None of this, however, will change the fundamental dynamics of the Democratic race: party loyalists and undecideds looking for pragmatism and smart, detailed policy will back Hillary; idealists will go for Bernie’s lefty rhetoric and one-note symphony about income inequality and the corrupt campaign finance system
And she will keep marching toward a majority of delegates, while he, with nothing to lose, will not go quietly; witness his debate attacks over NAFTA and other trade deals, something he has not done in his TV ads.
Also last night: no one talked about the size of their schwantz.
Here’s the Calbuzz Twitter feed (in reverse order)
Bernie’s vote against money to auto bailout will hurt him in Michigan and Ohio in particular. Smart of HRC to use it.
Summary: HRC and Bernie supporters unmoved; undecideds looking for smart, detailed policy will go to HRC; idealists for Bernie.
I don’t intend to get into the gutter with whoever they nominate, Hillary says.
Is that dandruff on Bernie’s shoulder and suit coat?
Hillary says she prays for specific people in rough circumstances, for the will of God to be known, for people in authority
I am proud to be Jewish. My father’s family was wiped out by Hitler. I know from extremism, Bernie says in response to Cooper.
On whether God is relevant, Sanders quote Hillel (without attribution): Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Bigotry, bullying, blustering by Trump won’t wear well with the American people, says HRC. Sanders says he does better vs Trump.
Compare the substance of this debate to Repubs, HRC says. Bernie says the GOP debates show why more $ needed for mental health.
Bernie’s finger wagging and smirky faces to get attention when Hillary is speaking makes him look like a cranky old coot.
No governors or senators support me, Bernie says proudly.
Bernie says he was and is against death penalty — 1994 crime bill which he voted for had good and bad provisions
Don Lemon asks HRC about 1994 crime bill — she says she and Bernie voted for it — as Bill noted it had faults, she agrees
Bernie’s inability to withstand Hillary’s assault on his gun control record — the finger waving and face-making — is absurd
Still waiting for Cooper to ask about the size of their hands.
Bernie says multinational companies don’t need subsidy from the American middle class
HRC: You were either for saving the auto industry or you were against it…Bernie deflects to Wall St, superpacs, speeches
Bernie says he voted against Wall St bailout — HRC says if everybody voted like he did auto industry would have collapsed
HRC says Bernie was against the auto bailout — I voted to save the auto industry, he voted against the money to save auto indsty
Bernie attacks HRC directly on trade agreements — something his ads haven’t done — guess he’s still going for the jugular
Neither Bernie nor Hillary has yet to talk about the size of their hands and/or genitals.
Bernie, what took you so long? Says he’s been fighting powerful interests all his career and held forum to focus on Flint
Q: are you using Flint for political points? HRC says she’s been working these issues a long time, reacted immediately re Flint
Why trust government? Bernie says pole could trust corporations or Wall St — Govt created by the pple
HRC supports Flint program to pay locals to deliver water. Bernie says he’d have Feds intervene. CDC has to examine everyone.
Hillary agrees gov should resign but have to focus on getting $$ from Feds, state to help this city. It is raining lead in Flint.
Bernie was shocked to learn that children in Flint are being poisoned. Gov should resign. Moves directly to income inequality.