Calbuzz Interview: How Poizner Courts Conservatives


stevepoiznerSteve Poizner faces two key challenges in seeking the Republican nomination for governor: appeasing the GOP’s social conservative mullahs while convincing its anti-government jihadists his economic views fit more with their absolutist ideology than Meg Whitman’s.

An erstwhile Silicon Valley moderate, Poizner now positions himself as an Arthur Laffer-like disciple of economic growth through tax cuts and roll-backs in regulation, while finessing his pro-choice stance on abortion for the pro-life, cultural right-wing of his party.

The 52-year old Insurance Commissioner also has joined the crusade for a part-time legislature, a move that recalls how former Gov. Pete Wilson assuaged conservatives with his embrace of term limits in the 1990 gubernatorial race. All the while, Poizner keeps pounding chief rival Whitman, portraying her as a Schwarzenegger-like, neophyte squish whose vow  to run government like a business is no match for the Democrat-dominated Legislature.

“This is going to come down between Meg Whitman and me,” Poizner told Calbuzz in a sit-down interview, “(Voters) don’t want a career politician for sure, but they also don’t want a rookie, and I really do think that voters understand that politics is different from running a company.

“Being in a board room, I can just tell you, is different. There’s no hiring, no firing, no stock options (in government). The tools are different,” he added. “Between Meg and me, only one of us…has a track record.”


First exchange: For the first time, Poizner and Whitman in recent days have exchanged sharp fire in an effort to paint the other as too liberal to represent the hard-line conservatives who dominate the Republican primary electorate.

Whitman struck first, distributing a video of Poizner’s 2004 Assembly campaign, when he advocated early release of some state prisoners, in sharp contrast to the tough stance he has taken against such a policy in the governor’s race. At the same time, Steve Harmon of the Contra Costa Times reported how Poizner’s “past support of taxes could haunt him” in the primary, detailing his record of backing a measure that made it easier to raise taxes for schools, among other past fiscal positions anathema to the GOP right-wing.

The attacks exposed Poizner’s vulnerabilities among conservative voters, as John Wildermuth showed in an analysis called “Poizner apologizes for being a moderate.”

megonvanyoutubePoizner quickly countered Whitman’s attack with a You Tube video that sent the message his rival is a liberal, cultural elitist; it featured Whitman singing the praises of Van Jones, Obama’s green jobs guru. Jones resigned over the weekend under conservative pressure, following disclosures of portions of his leftist record that included diatribes against Republicans and claims that the Bush administration was complicit in the 9/11 attacks.

“This is an epic battle,” Poizner said of his campaign. “This election will be the most important election in the country in 2010, maybe the most important gubernatorial race in California history, given the mess that we’re in.”

The interview: Cautious and wary, Poizner recently sat down with Calbuzz to talk about the race, his platform and the mess in California. Sitting in an outdoor cafe, he munched from a bag of potato chips after pushing away the nastiest-looking egg salad sandwich in the history of the world, which an aide had bought for him to eat during the late afternoon interview, after a day of campaigning.

“You had to get egg salad,” he said. “You think there’s anything more difficult I could possibly eat?

Here are some weed-whacking excerpts from the interview


Taxes: “If you want to raise tax revenue the best way to do that is by reducing tax rates.”

“We are looking at broad-based, across-the-board tax decreases to make California more competitive, job-wise. In the next few weeks, we will put out a detailed proposal that will go into specifics of which taxes, how much. We’re going to combine some of our ideas about tax decreases with some reforms of the regulatory system as well. It’s really going to be a jobs proposal, jobs package.

“I went to one of those meetings (Commission on the 21st Century Economy) and, of course, there’s no consensus in that group…

“The (business net receipts) tax has the feel of the sales tax. The thing that worries me…is that people will perceive a major tax cut just happened – they won’t see the impact of the business value-added tax because it will be built into the price of the product. I’m afraid that politicians will want to ratchet up the sales tax over time because people will think it’s so low…

“I oppose a split roll (property tax) and a carbon tax. This is not the time to be adding new taxes.”


Cuts in education: “I’m very concerned that we’re under-investing in education but the answer is not to increase taxes, because then you get into this accelerated death spiral. It’s going to be painful for the next year or two or three in order to get out of the mess we’re in, there’s going to be pain…

“I support higher tax revenues through lower tax rates and I want to invest these higher tax revenues in higher education and K-12…

“People from universities in other states are creating raiding parties of the UC system, our professors are going to get pilfered left and right here.”

Teachers unions: “(Teachers) are the ones that told me there’s so much money that never makes to the classroom. There are 600,000 people who work in K-12 and over half of them aren’t in the classroom…

“I want to empower teachers. People ask me this all the time – you’re a Republican, how are you going to deal with the unions? My education reform platform is going to appeal to teachers. There’s 300,000 members of the CTA and I’m going to communicate with all of them…

“There are 5,000 schools that report to 1,000 schools districts that report to 58 county boards of education that report … to a whole mixture of…bureaucracy and overlap…We’ve got to totally flatten that out.”

Dysfunctional state-schools financing: “We have to fix that.”


Platform: “How I run for governor is going to be critical to my strategy. I’ll be issuing more and more details – I’m going to be very specific. I will drive my political consultants nuts. Political consultants don’t want you to be specific – ‘don’t let them pin you down.’ But that’s not the way I’m going to be running this campaign.”

“Some of my TV advertising may say the following – ‘please do not vote for me unless you agree with me’…I’m hoping I get elected by a landslide.”

Part-time legislature: “From 1850 to 1967, California had a part-time legislature. I want people who have been successful in their community and then they’re sent to the Legislature to make wise decisions…I want to figure out a way to attract a different kind of person.”

Gov. Schwarzenegger: “I think (he’s) been scattered. Sometimes he’s working in this direction, sometimes he’s working in that direction. I really do admire that he’s gotten the reform movement started…but he doesn’t have necessarily my same devotion to a set of core principles.”

Jerry Brown: “I look forward to running against Jerry Brown. He’ll be a tough, formidable candidate – he’s crafty, it will be a tight campaign. He is the epitome of someone who has never had any experience whatsoever except in politics and I bet you the majority of voters are going to say ‘thank you but it’s time to retire.”’

Tom Campbell: “Tom Campbell…is a great person, but he’s advocating tax increases – he’s running in the wrong primary. He’s not going to get into double digits, he’s not going to be the Republican nominee.”

Meg Whitman: “This is going to come down to between Meg Whitman and me and when people dig in they’re going to realize that only one of us has actually started companies from scratch. The other one is a large company marketing executive – that’s a difference…Only one of us has actually run for office and won. I’m the only Republican to get elected in a regularly scheduled election since 1994…The difference is track record.”


Abortion rights: “I’m pro-choice but I really do feel quite passionate about being against abortions. I want to drive the number of abortions down to as close to zero as possible.

“I just don’t think you can or should outlaw abortion – I mean that’s just not going to happen, wrong step. I’m in favor of outlawing late term abortion…I support parental notification, I support some logical steps that put some reasonable restrictions on abortions and most importantly I’m in favor of bold education programs for teenagers.”

Gay rights: “I don’t support gay marriage (and I support) Prop. 8. I do support civil unions and domestic partnerships.”

Social conservatives: “I’m finding that a lot of very conservative social conservative types they understand that my top priority is family values. There’s nothing more important than making sure that families can make ends meet…

“So we don’t completely agree on the social issues but we’re not 100 miles apart. On fiscal issues we’re 100% in lock step.”

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There are 11 comments for this post

  1. avatar tegrat says:

    Is there any evidence that supports the claim that lower tax rates increase state revenue? Didn’t think so.

  2. avatar Bill Bradley says:

    The reality is that there is no Steve Poizner political career without Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    When Arnold allowed himself to be foolishly drawn into a 2004 campaign to win Democratic seats in the State Assembly — in which his extremely well-paid political team had him campaigning for a motley crew of characters, including a guy who changed his name a couple times and a former lobbyist for Enron! — he came out of the disastrous experience having found only one saving grace.

    That was Steve Poizner’s very moderate campaign for a Bay Area Assembly seat.

    Arnold put him on the Public Utilities Commission, and was so supportive of the guy that he was quite resistant to the idea that Poizner’s finances were far too tangled with conflicts of interest to allow him to be confirmed as a PUC commissioner.

    When Arnold finally, and this was months in the making, pulled Poizner’s appointment, he gave him another venue for continued political relevance: A leading role in the 2005 redistricting reform initiative.

    That failed, of course, in part because it was so badly drafted.

    Then Arnold encouraged him to run for state insurance commissioner, helping clear the field of any serious opposition.

    And when Poizner beat poor Cruz Bustamante for the job, Arnold kept including Poizner in his public events to help him with his profile.

    • avatar Jacksend says:

      Mr Bradley, have you ever interviewed or spoken to Commissioner Poizner? You seem to make a lot of generalizations that do not stand up to the scrutiny of reality. Also, while attempting to link Schwawrzy and Poizner, you seemed to have left out the last 2 years worth of polar opposite positioning. Like prop 93 for example, didnt Mr Poizner go squarely against Schwarzy and his best buddy Fabian Nunez and Don Perata? On Schwarzys health care plan (around the same time interestingly enough), Poizner publicly opposed it. On Schwarzys plan to tax homeowners insurance policies for revenue into the general fund to be squandered, Poizner blasted him in public. On this years budget fiascos, Poizner has been leading the charge against raising taxes (In February), and the kooky special election on May 19th.

      Mr Bradley, Poizner just sued Schwarzy for that illegal SCIF ripoff.

      Mr Bradley, im not a reporter or a blogger, but i at least read enough to have a proper background on Mr Poizner, Schwarzenegger, Meg Whitman, Tom Campbell, etc.

      You simply do not have the first clue what you are talking about, frankly, and its sad that bloggers and reporters these days can just say what they want without any credibility.

      Calbuzz guys rock, its nice to see them continuing their fine journalism by actually INTERVIEWING the person before commenting on them.

  3. avatar sqrjn says:

    Flame on! Listen Moonrock, Bradley was just supporting his thesis sentence with a couple of factual statements and inferences. Why don’t you disagree with something he actually said. Plus its just a comment on a post, chill out.

    • avatar Bill Bradley says:

      Exactly, the poor soul doesn’t actually attempt to contest one thing that I wrote.

      Should he/she try, it will be quite amusing …

  4. avatar Bill Bradley says:

    Oh, give this nonsense a rest.

    If you don’t know what you are talking about, don’t embarrass yourself by going on.

    I’ve met Poizner and scouted him extensively.

    In addition to actually knowing the history between Schwarzenegger, who I know very well, and Poizner.

    If you can contest anything I have said on a factual basis, please attempt to do so.

    It will be most amusing!
    September 8, 2009 at 1:32 pm
    Mr Bradley, have you ever interviewed or spoken to Commissioner Poizner? You seem to make a lot of generalizations that do not stand up to the scrutiny of reality.

  5. avatar Cicero says:

    “I am the only Republican to get elected in a regularly scheduled election since 1994.”

    Excuse me, but wasn’t Governor Schwarzenegger elected in a “regularly scheduled election” in 2006?

    I am assuming that Commissioner Poizner’s opponents this time around will campaign on something more than their weight loss . . . .

    Calbuzz, you’re great, but I wish you had asked Commissioner Poizner about his record as Insurance Commissioner, since he says he’s running on it. And then did some digging to see what people who work for him or deal with the Department think about his leadership. For example, how much of the “Strategic Vision” on the CDI website has been accomplished?

  6. avatar Bill Bradley says:

    5 hours after your ridiculous claims, I am waiting for you to try to make me a liar.

    Give it your best shot.

    September 8, 2009 at 1:32 pm
    Mr Bradley, have you ever interviewed or spoken to Commissioner Poizner? You seem to make a lot of generalizations that do not stand up to the scrutiny of reality.

  7. avatar Cicero says:

    Just heard that the Department of Finance has cut $4 million from the Department of Insurance’s budget–even though it is a special fund agency, whose budget does not come from the General Fund. It seems as though Commissioner Poizner’s lawsuit against the Governor over SCIF has ended the honeymoon between them.

  8. avatar Hap Hazard says:

    Bradley is right about Poizner, except for an apparent type where he says Democratic seats in the State Assembly, where he obviously meant Republican seats…
    Poizner’s race against Ira Ruskin was very close, but he lost nonetheless. I know that Poizner was very grateful to Arnold for his assistance in all the ways Bradley mentioned. On his Inaugural night, (which was also Arnold’s 2nd Inaugural), Poizner lavished praise on and duly acknowledged Arnold and the role he played. I am told that he not only said those nice things, but that he may also have been visited by Arnold at the Inaugural festivities at the Sheraton Hotel. Either that or Poizner made a “pilgrimage” to Arnold’s party as the grateful pol. Having not been there myself I can’t say for sure, but I do know, Jacksend, that Poizner would be able to confirm to you all of what Bradley said and much more if you were to ever interview or speak to him.

  9. avatar Hap Hazard says:

    Cicero – not sure that retribution was the cause of the $4 million cut to Insurance. WE are simply out of money by a long shot more than was taken care of in the latest can kicking.
    On the other hand, I think that there WAS retribution during the previous budget go around when Arnold cut $1 million or so from the Controller in the budget blue pencil action, which I think was payback for all the grief that Chiang gave to the administration on the subject of furloughs, and his antics in court etc. Arnold also cut the Treasurer last February, but I think it was just so as not to appear to be singling out anyone. After all Lockyer voted for Arnold!! And I also think it would be impossible that Lockyer and Arnold weren’t friends.

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